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It's time for UNM's fat people to change their ways

Yes, it’s fun to read about the smoking ban on campus, abusive football coaches and the eternal struggle between left and right, but these issues are just distracting us all from the real problem that plagues the UNM campus: fat people.

Yes, I know that America is an overweight nation in general and that UNM is not exceptionally fat, but perhaps we should take it upon ourselves to set the example.

I’ve heard of the freshman 15, but when I walk around on campus I’m sometimes shocked to see the sophomore 60 and the senior 70. Thank God the winter weather is here: People will be forced to put on more clothes.

The problem isn’t even the rolls of fat I see hanging out (from the oddest of places), it’s the clothes people wear that accentuate them. It’s high time someone pointed out this issue to the poor, and hopefully unaware, overweight souls on campus. Please, no more muffin tops. Those who cannot walk up a flight of stairs without panting should not wear overly tight or short clothing. Try the husky section at Wal-Mart. The problem here isn’t really the health issue, but the aesthetic issue. Those of us who are in shape and working it shouldn’t have to be subjected to the visual atrocities that result from the abysmal wardrobe choices that so many obese people make on a daily basis.

I realize that perhaps a small percentage of these overweight students may have a gland problem or freakishly low metabolism, but the majority of them need to put down the bag of Sonic they bought in the SUB and hit the treadmill. And when I say hit the treadmill, I do not mean walk on it at a leisurely pace for 10 minutes while chatting on the phone with your girlfriends. You know who you are. With UNM accepting too many students as it is, competition for treadmills in Johnson Gym is fierce enough. I know that personally.

Seeing an obese person waddling in front of me with his or her back fat hanging out for everyone to see is far more disturbing than a smoker blowing smoke in my face (fat smokers are the worst). I find it an interesting paradox that it’s in one of the most image-obsessed nations that people often think they look good, even when they so clearly do not.

Many of the people reading this will probably not even immediately realize that they fall into the category of people I am talking about. But please. Put away the halter-top, try eating a vegetable, and stay away from drive-thrus at 3 a.m.
And to all the fit people out there: simply stay your sexy selves.

Victor Murthy is a UNM student.


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Added at 9:56 pm on November 2, 2009
Section: Opinion
113 Comments
November 3 at 7:24 AM
by regina

If this had been an editorial about obesity it might have been interesting. Instead it was just an excuse to sling stereotypes and to insult just about everyone. I hope this is a one time guest column.

November 3 at 7:43 AM
by danny V

I had hope this would be a funny piece, but the humor is low grade not even worthy of a HS sophomore, what concerns me is not the “fat” people at UNM as much as the FAT HEADS like Victor Murthy who may be a UNM student, but has learned nothing beyond throwing bombs, having a fat head full of
Excrement is not a positive attribute, nor is writing a unfunny piece, if you are serious you have some serious growing up to do, which is something a excrement filled fat head lonely boy can work on.

November 3 at 7:46 AM
by TC

Wow! I thought this was going to be maybe even slightly educated, but this piece was shallow and full of disdain (dare I say hate) for who the author deems as fat people.

Murthy would have had so much more credibility if he said what in his experience made him an worthwhile candidate to discuss the aesthetics of the average overweight student body. Is he a fitness and health expert because of years of personal fitness research with credible sources? Is he studying health and nutrition? Does he work in the beauty industry? What exactly qualifies him to discuss, as a guest columnist and not just an ordinary observer, about the “aesthetics” of fat people?

Now, if we’re talking dress alone, I’m clearly conservative when it comes to clothes. I prefer to be more covered up, especially when going to classes. However, I have seen a number of these so-called sexy skinny people who, in my opinion (read: opinion, that’s why I am not a guest columnist) who should put on more clothes because even though their bodies are fit and firm, these clothes are, in my opinion once again, clearly inappropriate for a classroom setting. But that’s my opinion, and I do not claim to be an expert in health or fashion. Just the same, I agree with one point that Murthy makes: Some people just should cover up. I do not, however, claim it purely for aesthetics; I just think that there is a time and place for specific dress choices and some of the dress choices are not the choices I would make for class. Once again, this is my personal, and not expert, opinion.

Murthy suggests that only fat people are unhealthy, because of the lifestyle choices they make. What about the “fit, sexy people” who smoke like chimneys, the same ones who go to the gym religiously every day and work out for an hour or two? You see them all around campus too, blowing smoke in your face. Is Murthy suggesting that fit people second-hand smoke is better for you, or sexier, than fat people second hand smoke? The Surgeon General of the United States in a report dated 2006 makes no distinction between the second hand smoke generated by fat and fit people: ALL second hand smoke is bad. Respected medical organisations, like the Mayo Clinic, the American Heart Association and the American Cancer Society all agree with the Surgeon General. Once again, I ask, what medical or health credibility does Murthy have to back up his claim that it is better to inhale the second hand smoke of a fit person over a fat person?

The Daily Lobo has taken a major fall in the quality of articles they publish here. The editors had an excellent opportunity to have this piece become a quality piece about health and smoking, but allowed this shallow, un-researched, disdainful vanity piece to take its place instead. I blame the editors for allowing this atrocity to be filed as a guest column instead of a letter to the editor, where it would have been more appropriate, and I blame the writer for having too high of an opinion of his health-related and beauty related views to actually think himself expert enough that this piece would be considered to be more than a whiny piece of space.

November 3 at 7:55 AM
by Monica

You have just painted a self-portrait of yourself that was far more offensive than the obese, muffin-top overweight individual(s) you just tried to bash for attention. As the old saying goes, “beauty comes from with in.” It’s funny, as I read your article I didn’t see a fine looking man, I can’t repeat what I saw as I was reading your article. Good luck in finding yourself and your self-esteem. One bit of advice, work at renewing your heart. By renewing your heart,you’ll find in the long run that it is far more appealing to others and it will allow you to someday find yourself.

November 3 at 8:22 AM
by Peter Levy

This piece is not even worthy of an elementary school student. Even a high school paper would not publish this piece of drivel.

Yes being overweight is a problem for the individual, but if Murthy is so narrow minded about others he should go to a school that specializes in skinny athletes and models.

People should be happy with who they are. That being said, no one should be walking around in overly tight or short clothing no matter how trim or fat they may be. Dress appropriately for where you are. Gym clothes are for the gym, bathing suits for the pool, pajamas are for sleeping. Try to dress so that you do not look like a fool. Jeans and shirts are fine.

Murthy’s comments are nothing more than hate and biggotry.

November 3 at 9:12 AM
by The Locksley Left

Nice piece Vic! When you have haters you’re doing something right.

Keep up the good work.

November 3 at 9:28 AM
by watergate

I guess that Vic is the only educated person at UNM. Vic used the same style of satire that Jonathan Swift used in the “Irish Papers”. The response that people are giving is really funny, because the UNM pubic is too ignorant to know what political satire is. Great article and responses.

November 3 at 9:34 AM
by Jay Schaeffer

I read this piece online in Jersey. I keep thinking that I want to see Murthy naked.

November 3 at 9:40 AM
by Cee

Satire, Oh, right. Some of us are educated enough to read and understand satire. Unfortunately Vic is not educated, and doesn’t know what satire is if it hit him in the face. Some of his comments are to the point about the clothing. However, who made him the fashion police, the fat police, the skinny/fit/sexy police?

November 3 at 9:42 AM
by danny v

I don’t see the piece as satire at all,I see an attempt, but it wasn’t funny, nor poignant, nor political. If watergate considers this educated and the UNM public ( I assume you didn’t mean pubic, as in hair-although that could be considered funny) ignorant I bet he has some really funny quotes on the Black Plague.

How is this political, and how does the failed attempts at humor meet 18 standards, if it was a jr high piece then I’m there with ya

November 3 at 10:01 AM
by Lilly

If your biggest problem with fat people is that they offend your sense of beauty than GET OVER YOURSELF. I don’t know what you look like, but I can safely say that some people don’t think you’re eye candy and would probably prefer to not look at you. Or thinks a shirt you wore was unflattering.

I thought this would be a sarcastic editorial on the obesity epidemic, but it’s just hateful and shallow.

November 3 at 10:36 AM
by Rick Raab-Faber

In a second reading of this piece, I can see that it was intended to be satire — or something approaching it. The problem is that it fell through. The piece went on for far too long. If it was wanting to say that, yes, the original issues mentioned (the smoking ban on campus, abusive football coaches and the eternal struggle between left and right)were what really is important, then it should have referred back to them a bit more. Instead, Murthy left his premise and jumped into a tirade that became hateful. What if he had chosen to mock a racial or ethnic group to make his point? Would the editors have chosen to run the story? Personally, I think that an attack on, sat, people who wear their hats sideways would have made a much better point. If you want to point out that the public are trying to trivialize important issues, then pick a trivial issue to work with.

On the off chance that Murthy was serious, then I would say that the editors of The Daily Lobo have seriously erred. And Murthy is a #%@&&!

November 3 at 11:19 AM
by Is YOUR MAMA fat?

How about your daddy? If so, you’ll look in the mirror in a few years and remember this article you wrote in college.

Since you are a HUNK and you must have a girlfriend, I have to ask if her mother is fat?

I suspect in a few years, your stupidity won’t allow you to get a job at Sonic!

November 3 at 11:26 AM
by Fat Tire

Vic’s piece is satire in the spirit or style of Jonathan Swift? Now that is funny. Vic should stick to non-humorous mean spirited screed which he is clearly better at.

November 3 at 12:11 PM
by Heba

Victor did a great job stating what many of us are thinking every time we see an overweight person lacking of more clothes. I think he just had the guts to say it in public. Well done, and please readers, many people are thinking the exact same thing.

November 3 at 12:35 PM
by George P

This was hilarious, Mr. Murphy states what is only whispered when the morbidly obese choose to present themselves in public with ill-fitting clothes. You don’t need to be an expert to recognize the bestial overweight.

November 3 at 1:19 PM
by A

A quick look in the UNM directory has Victor Murthy listed as a business major, and a quick look at his facebook page has him posing shirtless with a moderate build. Yeah, I’d say this is a joke article.

November 3 at 1:24 PM
by Danny V

Humor is subjective, so when I say the article was not funny, insightful, political, or clever, I understand if you did I cannot change your mind. But the article was juvenile, mean spirited, and I repeat NOT FUNNY

As for what he is saying, what others are thinking, that doesn’t make it right, I would never want to censure writings, speech, or saint’s preserve us THINKING, would that logic still apply if the comments were racially insensitive, even if they were funny or authentically parody by a member of the same minority.

As for Heba and George P. and their shout out to the readers, just because someone thinks the same thing, doesn’t give it real WEIGHT, if you truly think it is funny because someone doesn’t cover themselves to your satisfaction, your jokes about the homeless, the limbless, and minorities must be priceless

November 3 at 1:30 PM
by jayjay

What if this were someone else writing an article bashing on gays/lesbians, Vic?

How would you feel about that?

November 3 at 2:36 PM
by PEASEY

Well Vic, I actually do like my muffin top and have never had any complaints about it. Maybe you are just “muffin top” deprived and crave it but don’t know how to go about getting it. Touch a muffin top every now and then, for as you pointed out, its everywhere around campus. It is actually soft and lovable—jiggles too. You never know, you might actually like it. We muffin top individuals don’t have to starve or worry about gaining an ounce to OMG! go on a diet and be depressed about it. Nope, we go on eating the good stuff. All in the name of muffin top fun :)

November 3 at 2:44 PM
by FAT neighbors having SEX.

I have some really really really FAT neighbors, also UNM students, that live in the apartment below me and they have lots of sex. While hearing her moan and him grunt, I try really hard NOT to imagine anything but I am in awe how this act can even take place to begin with. What is more amazing is that they only take a shower once a week and even then for only five minutes!

SORRY IF I RUINED YOUR DINNER!

November 3 at 2:58 PM
by DP

You are a shallow, egotistical, self riteous, jerk. You have no lick of common sense. You hang around people that use you and you use them in return. You will never be loved for who you are. It’s awesome that you take good care of your self but if you had any lick of sense you would open up your words to maybe teach those your scorn so badly how to feel good about themselves. Everybody in the world needs to feel loved and you probably made somebody feel like crap and hopefully they don’t go and do anything to hurt themselves. This isn’t satire of any kind this is pure hatred. Karma is a good thing and you will get yours ten fold!!!!!

November 3 at 3:18 PM
by PEASEY

OK, never mind. You can’t touch my muffin top. After seeing what you look like on facebook, ummm… very unhealthy! Here I thought Vic was athletic and fit. You have what we call a “beer belly.”
My 5 year old son has a more developed six pack than what you are sporting. Oh, points to ponder on… Top Gun the Movie came out in the 80’s. Only Tom Cruise could pull the look off ;-)
As for you “FAT neighbor having SEX” if you say they have lots of sex and can tell how long they have sex…ummm you got some serious issues :O Student health or the Agora Crisis center on campus can help you with that. Sounds to me you enjoy evesdropping on your downstairs neighbors :-S
Sorry dude, but u walked right into this one.
I aint hatin’…just debatin’

-Holla at chu gurl!

November 3 at 3:23 PM
by Uncle J

Victor,
One quick look at your facebook page (not to mention, a quick read of your phrase ‘the visual atrocities that result from the abysmal wardrobe choices’) and you’re obviously gay. How would you feel if you read an article that said, “Those of us who are normal and heterosexual shouldn’t have to be subjected to the visual atrocities that result from a man holding another man’s hand in public, or from a man kissing another man in public, or from a man grinding his butt into another man’s crotch at the club”?

Moreover, your body certainly does not cry out “long hours of religious gym time.” Your soft belly and arms read “lazy.” You may be in shape (by genetic default, from the looks of it), but you certainly are not “working it” very hard. Actually, you could very well be one of those “who walk on [a treadmill] at a leisurely pace for 10 minutes while chatting on the phone with your girlfriends.”

Locksley Left,
Since Victor is hating on all fat people in ill-fitting clothes, they too MUST be doing something right! And they are. They are going about their daily lives wearing whatever clothing makes them content, regardless of what sneers and jeers they may receive; they are happily doing what pleases them and being comfortable in their own skin — something Victor could probably never pull off, skinny or fat.

Watergate,
Nice blanket statement that “the UNM pubic [sic] is too ignorant to know what political satire is.” Nice generalization there. Yes, I’m sure there is not one person (except for you, of course) in the UNM “pubic” (hahahaha) who knows what political satire is. Thank you for that insight.

Jay Schaeffer,
See Facebook > Victor Murthy. Not naked, but enough to realize that this guy is a far cry from the sculpted Greek god he tries to sound like.

November 3 at 4:08 PM
by Katie with a Muffin Top

Dear Victor, I see plenty of UGLY, skinny people walking around campus…should we ask them to wear paper bags? Just checking!! Last time I checked, we were all entitled to our opinions and our own wardrobes.

November 3 at 4:24 PM
by PEASEY

Apparently our man Victor reads our responses here, or he would not have gone and changed his facebook picture in the last 30 minutes after I referenced it. Its even a worse image of himself. If you call that buff, athletic, and fit, then God help us all.

November 3 at 4:26 PM
by S

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

everyone leaving a comment should stop trying to convince themselves that people who are fat should keep on being fat and feel good about it. NO ONE feels good when they are really overweight, for both asthetic and health reasons. if a mean-spirited article is what it takes for people to start losing weight, then good! maybe heart disease won’t be the number one killer in America anymore.
and for most people being fat/unhealthy/lazy/gluttonous is a choice, not something you’re born with (like being gay/straight)

November 3 at 4:28 PM
by Laughing it Up

To the people hating on good ole Victor Murthy, you may want to take a minute to note where his letter was published:in opinion. That means he might be bigoted or hateful or a hater of the fat populace, but who cares, it his opinion and the right of the paper to publish it. As a matter of fact, the staff at the Lobo probably loves seeing the amount of comments outraged at Victor’s article. The point of a paper is to get the public to care, and those who have taken the time to comment on the story obviously. So before unloading your own copious amounts of hate onto a person who you are at mad for his hate, stop and think for a minute about the way things are working and how you are being used by the media. I’m sure they are happy for participation.

November 3 at 4:36 PM
by TC

S, you missed the point completely. If the author had written an article about the benefits of a healthy lifestyle, sources to back it up, and feasible suggestions on how to lose weight and be healthy, complete with proper satire, no one would be chewing him out like they are now. But when you make a comparison like: “Seeing an obese person waddling in front of me with his or her back fat hanging out for everyone to see is far more disturbing than a smoker blowing smoke in my face (fat smokers are the worst).”, it only makes him sound stupid, and is even more disturbing because his tone sounds completely serious. Would he really prefer second hand smoke blown in his face (potential lung cancer) than see a fat person (where he could avert his line of vision)? That puts him on a whole different level of stupid if he’s serious.
We’re not advocating (or at least I’m not) an unhealthy lifestyle. We just prefer articles that not only make sense, but do not offend others with it’s blatant stupidity.

November 3 at 4:40 PM
by Nathan Steele

Dear Victor (and others like him),

I have never been so appalled, and I’ve been appalled before, by the opinions of some of my fellow UNMers. I’m sure other readers share in my distaste for the repulsive ideas expressed in Tuesday’s article by Victor Murthy, “its time for NM’s fat people to change their ways.”

Victor, I’m sure you must be a hot dude to have so much ego and such a strong vision for what the world should look like. Unfortunately, I think you wash board abs and brains. Allow me to express why I think your perspective is prejudiced poison, and why your thoughts should be wiped from the privledged space the Daily Lobo provides.

I never knew someone could be so offended by a person of size. You would rather someone blow smoke in your face? You choose the physical harm of second hand smoke over seeing fat people in tight clothes? I can agree that we need to live healthier lives but not for the sake of a prettier world. If you want to scope out hot people don’t come to a university, go to an exclusive gym or beach, become a model, of just stay at home and watch porno. The university is a place of learning, not gawking. You argue for an elitist and hegemonic notion of aesthetics. You reject diversity, saying no to others ways of thinking and being when their choices have a negligible effect on your existence. You are prejudiced to think that one group of people should not dress in a particular way. But the hate goes deeper in your words; this is more than fashion advice. The images evoked in scenes of “an obese person waddling in front of me with his or her fat hanging out” or the person that can’t “put down the bag of Sonic they bought in the SUB and hit the treadmill,” and then the words used to describe these scenes, such as “fat people” are both “visual atrocities” and “the real problem that plagues the UNM campus,” all indicates that you, Victor Murthy, are a bigot.

You not only celebrate that we are an “image-obsessed nation,” but neglect to consider the complex aspects of identity beyond physical appearances making you an even bigger bigot. Ample research indicates that obesity is an issue largely connected to class, with those in poverty being at greater risk. Also, consider that poor people’s limited access to money affects a person’s ability to feed and clothe themselves, meaning that some of the tight clothes you see around campus may already make those people feel uncomfortable, and yet they have no choice. Not everyone can afford clothes that fit properly.

Don’t assume you know the people you walk by on campus. The experiences of others are always beyond your understanding so be careful about making generalizations about how an entire group of people should think or act different. There are always more factors in someone else’s life than you can count (especially the guy or girl waddling in front of you).

Don’t pretend to know what beauty is for all people. In fact, “the ideal weight” is a cultural norm that varies from one place or time to the next. We should attempt to validate multiple perspectives on truth and beauty, assuming we wish to live in a world where diversity can exist and enrich our realities.

I reject Victor’s preferred reality completely, and along with it the notion that anyone should stop wearing what feels right. In fact, I call on all UNM students, from plus size to obese, to celebrate your bodies in whatever way you feel comfortable. I have a strong feeling that it might lead society to less discriminating and more diverse conceptions of beauty.

Sorry Victor but I condemn you perpetually suffer the fleeting company of many more who are not in your narrow eyes “fit [and] sexy,” but unless you’re attempting to masturbate as you roam campus it shouldn’t matter to you that much. UNM’s student body is not your sexual fodder, so try lighting your fire elsewhere.

You would cast shame and push into the darkness anyone who doesn’t fit your notion of a utopia, and yet no one has infringed on your rights or happiness. Live and let live. Stop obsessing about other people’s bodies. And rest assured, there’s more to beauty than what you find in magazines and the mirror.

Best,
Nathan Steele

November 3 at 4:40 PM
by Chadwick Johnstone

After looking at Vic’s facebook, I can’t tell if he is gay or just European. Can anyone help clarify this?

November 3 at 4:47 PM
by Reality Check

Time for a reality check, To those who believe this to be satire, you fail to understand just how extreme Mr. Swift was. I once recall his satirical solution to overcrowding was to exterminate new born children. That my friends…is satire. If Mr. Victor had said they need to take a steak knife and attempt to slice a chunk of themselves off in order to adhere to his sense of beauty, then yes, this would clearly be satire, as no mentally sane being would suggest that in a serious manner, hence the term, satire. However, his solution is actually a solution to the issue of obesity, or one of many to be correct. He states “Put away the halter-top, try eating a vegetable, and stay away from drive-thrus at 3 a.m.” Like i said before, if this were an expert satirist, he would’ve likely suggested an outrageous solution, but this is not so for Mr. Victor. I will get to being fair soon, but another element of Mr. Victor’s flawed logic is the following statement “Those who cannot walk up a flight of stairs without panting should not wear overly tight or short clothing”. Being a Biology Major, geared towards medicine, I find this to be factually idiotic. Example, I am somewhat overweight (230), but surprisingly athletic, being able to sprint for about 6 seconds without needing to take a 2nd breath, but a former friend of mine, a possibly 100 pound female (you know they don’t like to talk about that), can barely jog for 10 seconds without huffing and puffing as though she just did ran a mile.

However, despite all of his factual inaccuracies, and/or failed attempt at sarcasm, I must also dole out a reality check to his critics. For those of you who resort to personal attacks and insults (gay, fat, lazy etc. you know who you are), you are only demeaning yourself by resorting to such a petty form of response. Instead of trying to logically debunk him, you are doing the exact same thing as he possibly (was it satirical?) was doing, taking your own opinion and shoving it down his throat. We are all entitled to our opinions, but a good idea perhaps is to at least try to be civil about it, even though you vehemently disagree with the other person’s opinion.

And that, my friends has been a reality check.

November 3 at 4:58 PM
by to PEASLEY

to PEASLEY,

i think the more important issue is why you are constantly checking victor murthy’s facebook profile…….

November 3 at 5:02 PM
by Dio Brando

To Reality Check: Sprint for 6 seconds eh? I bet that’s usually to the Sonic before it closes? But I know you don’t like people shoving their opinions down your throat so I’m sorry. Would you prefer if I shoved some Saggio’s pizza down your throat instead?

November 3 at 5:06 PM
by PEASEY

Coz he makes me wanna go…ROWWWWRRRRRRR :P

Oh by the way.. get your spelling right. Its PEASEY

November 3 at 5:44 PM
by Julie

I am ashamed that Victor is a fellow honors student and that I actually considered a job at the Daily Lobo.

November 3 at 5:52 PM
by Julie

Please reference this people…if this was true satire, not only would he had someone check the rough draft, but he wouldn’t be posting comments as the following:

SOURCE:
http://pa-in.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&viewas=0&gid=2258073135

Katryn DeMeritt Stewart I’d vote for you if I could, on the basis of the name!
June 17, 2008 at 8:02am · Report

Katryn wow guys. I haven’t even invited anybody or put up a picture yet. Thank you guys for supporting me! I love you guys.
March 27, 2007 at 1:22pm · Report

Victor Murthy Upload some suggestive pictures of yourself to get things rolling!
March 26, 2007 at 10:02pm · Report

ON A SIDE NOTE—Unfortunately, obesity is a problem in the US, and New Mexico actually is one of the fittest states…

AND TO VICTOR—We’re not in France anymore, and a diet of cigarettes and starvation is not all that great either.

November 3 at 5:55 PM
by Kore

I saw someone up there wrote “Last time I check, we were all entitled to our opinions…” So, if we are all entitled to our opinions, does that not include the author of this column? By your reasoning, isn’t the author “entitled to his opinion”? I don’t get why you are telling someone who is entitled to his opinion – someone who never said people are not entitled to their opinions, but instead said that fat people are gross, which is his opinion – I don’t understand why you are telling him this. I mean, it doesn’t even make sense why you would make that argument. Nobody said anything about that. We’re talking about being grossed out by fat people, and how it’s mean to be that way, which is an opinion.
Idiot.

November 3 at 5:57 PM
by Fatty

I’ve been laughing at the Daily Lobo all semester. Their articles suck and they have no idea how to run a paper since all of the veterans moved on to better things. That being said, this is probably their worst digression thus far. Why exactly is Vic a guest columnist? My guess is that he is a buddy of one of the editors, probably one of the people in his seemingly endless pictures of parties on his facebook page. Don Schrader is a better writer and he’s only been in the letters’ section, why not go to him first for the guest column spot? He’s been writing for years, it’ll be more interesting, and he’s twice as gay as this poof. Congratulations, the Daily Lobo, you’ve destroyed any shred respect for our school paper might have still hung around if you hadn’t allowed this incendiary guest columnist. :)

November 3 at 7:10 PM
by Coleigh

I am appalled at what goes into the Daily Lobo. Yes, there are health issues out there, but to target people, who probably know that they have an issue and probably deal with it everyday, is just hateful. Victor, I am sure you are too skinny to realize this, but obese people are not affecting your health. Yes, some obese people do not dress to fit their body, but some skinny people show too much as well, that frankly most people do not want to see. How is it that smokers that blow smoke in your face are better than having to watch “an obese person waddling in front of [you]?”

Should we make people who have awful hair wear wigs? Should we force people with horrible acne to put a bag over their head? Personally, if I met you and you were the most handsome guy I have ever seen, I would never find you aesthetically pleasing because your article gave me a glimpse into your heart and all I see is hate. But I am sure you working out is what you have to do to compensate for your personality, so best of luck on the treadmill.

Really Victor, I think your health may be in question, because you can’t possibly have a heart.

November 3 at 8:50 PM
by Ginger

One word for all you offended people: SATIRE. Yes, we all learned about it in the 6th grade. Can’t think back that far?

I’m sure no one would find this offensive: http://www.online-literature.com/swift/947/

I find it to be even more heinous than Victor’s article. But it’s SATIRE and it’s absolutely HILARIOUS!!

November 3 at 8:57 PM
by Mtl

i think this was the stupidest editorial i have ever read! it was just offensive and this guy should never be able to write again. i don’t see how it got by the editor!

November 3 at 8:58 PM
by Bridger

I think Victor’s article is very funny. I also agree there there is far to little peer pressure for people to be healthy….. OH no wait you are the same people that think that smoking is horrible, but it’s cool to stuff your faces with deep fried _______. it’s kind of funny how you are all defensive when someone tells you to be thin, but feel no qualms telling someone they need to quit smoking. Bad health effects everyone. Deal with it

November 3 at 9:20 PM
by SkinnyGuy

You fatties are just jealous of my 28in waist (that and the fact that I can fit through doorways).

November 3 at 9:56 PM
by tra6lala

I thought it was a joke at first. Seriously, who takes the time to write something like this? I do not care what anyone dresses like. This is UNM. This school should not care about such shallow matters. Why did the Daily Lobo even publish this? It felt like I was reading some teen fashion magazine. If you want to raise health awareness then do it right, and respectfully.

November 4 at 1:03 AM
by Kasha

I would have been okay with this article if was well researched and spoke of the underlying issues that can lead to obesity. Instead, it is an offensive piece that insults many. Not to mention, if Victor is so concerned about fighting for the treadmill, then would the treadmills not be taken up by those whom are trying to exercise their excessive weight off in order to fit the ideal of American Beauty? Oh wait, that would actually make sense. Oops.

November 4 at 1:13 AM
by Gabby

Okay so first off i have to say i’m a fatty so i’m prejudiced when it comes to this article. And when i first read it i was pissed. I completely get why he doesn’t want to see fat people in overly tight or revealing clothes but to be honest with you I don’t want to see those skinny fit girls in clothes like that either. It is innapropriate either way. But if i don’t want to see it. I don’t look. I completely understand that he is entitled in to his own opinion but serioulsy he did not have to be so derogetory and down right cruel in the article.

This whole article was ridiculous and should not have been published. It’s just another attempt to make overweight people feel bad about themselves. There are many “fat” people out there who are not morbidly obese and are only a little on the bigger side. But they are labeled FAT because they do not fit today’s standard of beauty and it pisses me off that our society glorifies emaciated anorexic models that define the term of beauty today. I’m sorry but i don’t want to be skinny, i like the way i am, whether others feel the same or not. I dress how i feel comfortable which is in jeans and t-shirt but maybe some others feel more comfortable in halter tops and skirts. Victor Murthy has no right to tell us what he wants to see on campus in the terms of how people look and dress.

I also have to say that last statement about drive-thrus at 3 am is just plain rude. Besides while in places like LaPo or other eating area’s on campus and off it’s generally the skinny “sexy” people who have the large amounts of greasy food while you see many of the “fat” kids with smaller plates with less food. I’m tired of people assuming that those of us with weight problems just need to exercise and eat less to lose weight. Because usually that is not true. It’s harder than you would think to lose weight.

And for the whole clothes issue, I have a question for all you skinny “sexy” people out there. Have you ever gone to a plus size store (where they actaully have good clothes) and looked at their prices? If not, next time you are at the mall go find one and check it out. Believe me sometimes it’s just easier to find something a bit more ill fitting for a more reasonable price, sometimes paying $40.00 for a graphic tee in plus size isn’t worth is when you can get a slightly smaller version at wallmart for ten dollars. It may be a bit tight but at least you can buy more than just that one t-shirt.

And in response to the whole it’s satire thing. F that. This is not satire. If this was even an attempt at satire then it didn’t work. I’ve read plenty of satire and enjoy it immensly but this is just cruel. For example: the line “Those of us who are in shape and working it shouldn’t have to be subjected to the visual atrocities that result from the abysmal wardrobe choices that so many obese people make on a daily basis.” That’s just plain rude. This is NOT satire and anyone who thinks it is has really not read this article and seen how atrocious it really is.

Victor Murthy is just being an a$$ and needs to get over himself. Being skinny does not make you beautiful and being fat does not make you ugly. Which is definately what this article implies.

November 4 at 1:18 AM
by Skyler

The lack of depth and thoughtfulness in this editorial doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the ineffectiveness of the writing itself. The piece is poorly written, void of quality humor and done in poor taste. These musings are more or less pointless and furthermore, they are not cleverly portrayed. It makes me sad that this was published, even if it was just online. I for one, do not want this to represent UNM students. D

November 4 at 2:07 AM
by oops PEASEY

hahaha ok PEASEY. you need to get a life.

November 4 at 6:09 AM
by Stephanie

I am not sure whether to hang my head in shame that I share a campus with Mr. Murphy or to contemplate changing campuses if this is what the Daily Lobo views as journalism. I don’t see where in any way Mr. Murphy can complain how the size of any of his classmates should affect his learning. In our community, which many see as liberal, it is apparent that we are a diverse group hoping to achieve higher learning in a supportive environment. However after reading this prejudicial, judgmental, and incoherent rambling from a supposed concern student I have to say my respect for the Daily Lobo has fallen to join the same group with the National Enquirer and In touch magazine.
If one is to publish an article even in the opinion pages at least have the courtesy not to alienate half of your co students by demeaning them.
As a larger, robust and voluptuous woman I dare to say to you Mr. Murphy, I can wear my muffin tops wherever I like , and for all those anorexic size 0 people …EAT SOMETHING you are bothering me!

November 4 at 6:17 AM
by Coleigh

It’s weird how all of these satire fans can only think of one satirical writer. Really, if you are that knowledgeable about what is and is not satire, I would think you would know more than one writer. And SkinnyGuy, no one is jealous of you. If they were, they would be out trying to achieve your “28 in waist” and they are not. It is not just those who are slightly overweight who find this article offensive.

November 4 at 7:56 AM
by Robin of Berkeley

I’m amazed by the soothsayers: Ayn Rand, for instance, who warned us fifty years ago of the risk of dictatorship or civil war if collectivism persisted. Or economist Friedrich Hayek, who wrote in the 1940s that we’ll become serfs if we move toward big government.

However, what feels most prophetic lately is an obscure movie from the l970s called Little Murders. The writer, Pulitzer-Prize-winning cartoonist Jules Feiffer, predicted that the ’60s would unleash a feral, primitive society.

The movie has a checkered history. It started out as a play on Broadway in the mid-‘60s that was such a bomb, it closed after seven performances.

Audiences were shocked and horrified by the apocalyptic world presented. At the time, New York’s elite were celebrating the sexual revolution and the loosening of social mores. In contrast, Feiffer envisioned an eventual train wreck — a nihilistic world of little and big murders of the soul.

The failed play was relocated to England, where it became a big hit. It was produced for the big screen in 1971, starring some fledgling actors such as Elliot Gould, Donald Sutherland, and Alan Arkin.

A dark comedy, Little Murders depicts a society gone mad, replete with frequent homicides and crushing insults to the spirit.

The film’s moral compass is Patsy, a young woman who still bubbles over with optimism and love amidst the madness.

(Warning: I’m going to spoil the ending.)

By the end of the film, when Patsy is killed, her family finally cracks. They, like so many others, degenerate into a violent, ape-like state.

I’ve been thinking about the movie this week and the nightmare-world Feiffer forecast after learning of a horrendous crime near me in Richmond, CA.

There’s so much crime out here that most of the time, the residents are numb. We have waves of takeover restaurant robberies and you barely hear a peep.

And when a teacher was beaten and stoned a few months ago during her class at Portola Middle School in El Cerrito (minutes from Berkeley) a small article was buried in the local paper. Many in the leftist community defended the youths as victims of white privilege, and some even blamed the teacher.

But then, last weekend, there was a crime so evil that no one could brush it off.

At a homecoming dance at Richmond High School (in the same district as the middle school stoning), a fifteen-year-old girl was beaten and gang-raped for over two hours while a crowd from the dance watched, laughed, and photographed the scene. No one called the cops.

The girl was left unconscious, dumped under a bench. She had to be airlifted to a specialty hospital.

The so-called experts fault the usual suspects: absentee parents, indigence, drug-infested schools, and herd behavior. One teacher indicts the media’s sexual exploitation of women. A parent of one of the arrested youths blames racism.

But there was hardship, alcoholism, bad parents, sexism, and teenagers fifty years ago without such mayhem.

And many other countries have worse poverty, but lower crime rates. Crime is scant in India because for one, most Indians are Hindus or Sikhs and believe in reincarnation. Also, as an Indian friend told me, once you’re jailed in India, you make sure you never go back.

It’s easier to blame society than face the deep, dark truth: we’ve created a nation filled to the brim with sociopaths (also known as antisocial personalities).

I recently read a book called The Narcissism Epidemic. It reports the high number of narcissists among the young and contends that their condition is aided and abetted by self-esteem training.

True, but the theory feels a bit dated. The biggest danger now is a sociopathic epidemic.

While narcissists are selfish, annoying people, their humanity is still in place. They possess a conscience and can feel guilt and shame. Most people in power have some degree of narcissism.

Sociopaths are a different breed entirely. Here are some common features: callous disregard for others, superficial charm, pathological self-centeredness, lying and manipulation, irritability and aggression, lack of remorse or guilt, cruelty, ingratitude, and antisocial behavior.

O.J. Simpson and Bernie Madoff are obvious sociopaths. But the callous and the cruel may also have antisocial tendencies, such as Mike Malloy, a liberal Talk Radio host who said on air that he hopes Glenn Beck will commit suicide like Beck’s mom; or actress Sandra Bernhardt, who wished a gang rape on Sarah Palin.

What’s the difference between a sociopath and a narcissist? It goes to intent. John Edwards wanted to indulge his sensual pleasures, and he made his own needs front and center. That’s selfishness, narcissism. If he were purposely trying to destroy his wife, that’s sociopathy.

How far up the ladder in DC does sociopathy go? It’s anyone’s guess since the Teleprompter controls how much we know about Obama.

But have you noticed the surge in antisocial behavior since Obama came on the scene, like the wilding of Hillary and Sarah and the emboldening of thugs, from SEIU to the New Black Panthers?

We do know that Obama had a closer relationship with two sociopaths — Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn — than he let on. The demented duo never recanted their actions in the ’60s: bombing and maiming, telling white kids to go home and kill their parents, admiring Charles Manson. Ayers dedicated a book to Sirhan Sirhan, killer of Bobby Kennedy.

Then there’s Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who proudly detailed his sexual conquest of a young girl in a fictionalized memoir called Sex Rebel: Black. While pedophiles have protected status under the new hate crimes legislation, they’re still sociopaths in my book.

I’m not saying that Obama has an antisocial personality. At this point, no one really knows.

However, there’s reason for concern. I don’t know about you, but none of my friends revered Charles Manson or bombed buildings. Given Obama’s choice of compatriots, let’s hope that birds of a feather don’t flock together.

How did this happen, the metastasizing of an antisocial tumor?

Feiffer’s Little Murders offered some clues over forty years ago, such as self-worshiping, moral relativism, and rejecting God and religion.

The movie also sounded an alarm about the resurgence of the Left. The film’s most prescient moment is when Patsy’s husband, played by Elliot Gould, recalls being a college radical who has a change of heart.

In a darkened room, he gravely says to Patsy, “You shouldn’t destroy institutions until you know what will take their place. You might find that you will miss them when they’re gone.” Seconds later, Patsy is shot.

The progressives have destroyed the structures uniting this country since its founding. Now, the rules of morality that kept people’s base impulses in check have gone AWOL. Cruelty is the new normal, while the sacred is mocked.

What has the Left unleashed? A quasi-autocracy where dissidents are silenced and the Constitution is trashed. A government that loves animals, the earth, and endangered birds, but not humans.

Everywhere we look, from the ghettos to the corporations to the pristine halls of the government, we can see people whose hearts and souls are empty.

Their antisocial behavior is enabled by a codependent society that gives aggrieved groups the green light to pillage and plunder.

The H1N1 virus will hopefully fade away soon. But sociopathy will not wane unless we create a nation of grown-ups. A country where people are expected to take responsibility for their actions. No exceptions.

As long as sociopaths have carte blanche, the U.S. will no longer be a beacon of hope to the world. We won’t regain our standing until our lawmakers start following the law and our teachers can teach without being pummeled…

…and a fifteen-year-old girl can attend her big homecoming dance and not have her life destroyed in the process.

November 4 at 7:59 AM
by juice

It’s surprising that an business honors student would stupid enough to write/publish a piece like this. Mr. Murthy better hope that future employers don’t google him and find this. He just wrote himself out of many jobs.

November 4 at 8:05 AM
by Joseph Smith

How many more Maoists and Van Jones-style radicals are in the Obama administration? Some White House aides are concerned about the radicals in the House, and wonder if it’s not too late to show them the side door at midnight.

According to the American Spectator, recently-resigned senior advisor Susan Crawford “ran afoul” of senior economics advisor Larry Summers over the Net Neutrality rules that Crawford strongly supported. Apparently Summers only learned how radical the rules were when he started fielding questions from his contacts in the business community. It appears that Crawford’s radical ideas on government control of the internet, combined with her “blind-siding” Summers, were enough to have her shown the door, although the official White House stance is that she had to return to her tenured academic position. The Robert Gibbs public persona on the Obama White House may also conceal further rumblings over radicals:

Crawford’s exit comes at a time when some Obama Administration aides, after seeing the fallout from the resignation of Van Jones and the spotlight placed on leftists inside the administration, like Anita Dunn, wonder if it is too late to pull back many of the more radical aides now placed in a number of different cabinet level departments, including the Department of Justice, and the Energy and Education departments, and federal agencies. “They haven’t done us any good on any level,” says the White House aide. “And now they are just a bunch of targets on our back that we can’t shake.”

How long a strong-willed individual like Summers could go on without conflict with the radicals in the roost has been a bit of a mystery until now. It would appear that the ongoing tensions between the moderates and the radicals over Obama policy-making have potential to result in a few more ejections from one side or the other.
The radicals on the inside should be no surprise given some of the visitors from the outside, as reported last week: George Soros (4 visits), S.E.I.U. President and A.C.O.R.N. associate Andy Stern (22 visits), N.O.W. President Kim Gandy (15 visits), John Podesta, President of the Soros-funded Center for American Progress (17 visits), Jesse Jackson (6 visits), Al Sharpton (2 visits) and climate radical Al Gore (4 visits).

With the likes of John Holdren, Cass Sunstein and Carol Browner at the top of the radical food chain in the White House, not to mention the Radical-In-Chief, one can only speculate at what kind of strange creatures are hiding from the daylight in the recesses of the Obama administration.

Oh to be a fly on the wall as the tension builds in a White House increasingly out-of-step with the rest of the country.

November 4 at 8:14 AM
by Janet

Shame on you, Daily Lobo. Like overweight people haven’t been abused enough! Shame, Shame…

November 4 at 9:53 AM
by MBS

Wow. Just… wow.

November 4 at 10:22 AM
by Lobo grad

I used to be lived in the same dorm and this is not saitre this is really how he feels. He was telling other residents (skinny and athletic) that they were fat and needed to lose weight. He is and has been an egotisical wannabe european who has learned the word tact or his mother never taught to keep his opinions to himself.

November 4 at 12:17 PM
by BM

lol. funny yet idiotic article, even funnier responses.

highlights include

‘I’m tired of people assuming that those of us with weight problems just need to exercise and eat less to lose weight’

and

‘Maybe you are just “muffin top” deprived and crave it but don’t know how to go about getting it.’

November 4 at 12:56 PM
by To the Fat People Complaining

To all the fat people whining about people telling you to be skinny: Shut up. Most of you have chosen to be fat, and to those who have not i apologize. If you chose to do anything in this society, people will make fun of you for it. People who play Dungeons and Dragons will be called nerds. Smokers will be bullied for smoking. Fat people will be shamed into being skinny. Such is the way of the world, and i wouldn’t have it any other way. Through this collective peer pressure we become healthier as a whole. It’s the responsibility for the skinny and slim to tease the fat people into an healthy weight just as the its the responsibility of non-smokers to corral the smokers into smoking sections so everyone can collectively jeer at them. Humans, at the core, are vicious and have the desire to tear others to shreds and to survive we must be just as vicious as everyone else. Victor’s letter calls out the people not fit for survival in a day and age where obesity not only causes health problems but also a status as an outcast. He does what humans do best: hate. And for those who say otherwise, just look at the responses to his letters. They condemn him for his hate, yet they themselves are articles of hate. The only difference is they are supposedly justified in their letters because he started the cycle of hate. When the hate for one who hates every solves anything, let me know, in the mean time i again must stress to the obese people: quit complaining, you aren’t making anything better.

P.s. the article is pretty damn funny and well written. The line, “Those of us who are in shape and working it shouldn’t have to be subjected to the visual atrocities that result from the abysmal wardrobe choices that so many obese people make on a daily basis,” had me laughing out loud in class. I can understand why, with this humor, and the response through the letters bound to be sent in and the comments on this site, why this article was published. Bravo, Daily Lobo.

November 4 at 1:19 PM
by Rosemary Morgan

I think the Lobo needs to force an apology out of this guy. If not, then apologize for running this piece of crap. Honestly, this is offensive and it shows how little people have left their High School mentalities behind. I know when I graduated High School I didn’t EVER want to go back. But this is ridiculous. I agree that there are better fashion choices out there, but some of us don’t have the money to buy new clothes every time our weight fluctuates (or the skills/time to alter them themselves). And those fat people waddling around may be doing their best to try and lose the weight. I know a guy who has lost like eighty pounds and he is still not as skinny as a pole, but I respect that. And it has no aesthetic thinking what so ever, it is about his need to beat Diabetes. I am personally weighing in at 250 and have been exercising like crazy. I have not lost a pound but I can get up the stairs without losing my breath. I am not small, but you know what? At least we try. I can run, but not very far, and somehow I have managed to get an Orange Belt in Karate and keep up with a lot of the class. This article is on par with one that is racist. If this were an opinion letter it may have been okay, but it is a full blown article for a guest column. This should never have gotten past the editor.

November 4 at 1:34 PM
by Cubone

To the commenter self-titled “To the Fat People Complaining”:

Let’s reiterate the first line of your response: Shut. Up. I’m just going to say that right now. If you are going to be proclaiming that hate is a way to control society and make it more homogeneous, you need to sit yourself down and realize that everything you think is probably totally wrong and you need shut your mouth/ back away from the computer. You argue that mocking overweight people will motivate them to be skinner, but that’s like saying calling out racial slur will motivate someone to be whiter (Or the race of your choice; I’m almost sure you have one.) Nothing about spreading hate and hurt could make our society better. As someone with a family member constantly hospitalized for an eating disorder (a tall, Hispanic girl who has never been over 120 pounds), I know first hand how this type of thought process screws over almost every type of person possible.
I’m disgusted with the Daily Lobo, and especially with Victor, who I have known for seven years and don’t plan on ever talking to again. I knew you were a bigot, but I didn’t know you were inciting others to be bigots as well.

November 4 at 1:43 PM
by Meow

I hate those who are participating in the ‘Greek Life’. The butt scroll is aesthetically unpleasing as well as their disturbing appearances that do not differ greatly from each other. Can we make a ban on that? I am also disgusted by Anorexics. Seriously, If you can see someones bones then something is wrong. Not to mention those stupid skater kids. Fucking Hippies, they are just disgusting. Can we band then too?

But then I remember, I hate pretty much everyone. So lets just ban people from campus. I like cats though, they can come, but only mine.

November 4 at 1:52 PM
by Devon S.

Since 33% of Americans are obese, I can only assume that the author is anti-American, possibly associated with Obama and/or Osama Bin Ladin and it disturbs me that the Daily Lobo would publish this Communist rhetoric as if it were acceptable in a free and fat country.

November 4 at 2:18 PM
by Alexander

You people are being ridiculous, perhaps you should 1) realize its an opinion, and 2) realize that for the most part it is right. He excuses a small percentage who might actually have a legitimate medical reason behind their weight, but for the most part obesity is a lifestyle choice. He’s telling you to adopt a healthy lifestyle, he must be a witch! Burn him!

November 4 at 2:30 PM
by Tony

I almost missed this story but as I was lining my bird cage with the Lobo, it caught my eye. I know the Lobo is a second rate publication but why would even the Lobo publish this. I say all the fat people should sit on Victor Murthy, as if that is real name.

November 4 at 2:38 PM
by L

First, to Skyler, this article was not published just online. It was actually PRINTED in the Daily Lobo.

“Yes, it’s fun to read about the smoking ban on campus, abusive football coaches, the eternal struggle between left and right, and how fat people are so hideous, but these issues are just distracting us all from the real problem that plagues the UNM campus: blacks.

Yes, I know that America is full of blacks and UNM isn’t exceptionally black, but perhaps we should take it upon ourselves to set the example.

I’ve known that Albuquerque has an increasing black population but as I walk around campus I’m sometimes shocked to see groups of at least three or four black people walking around. Thank God there are still more whites. The ratio of white to black is still high.

The problem isn’t even the sight of their hideously dark skin, it’s the visual aspect of their horendous hip-hop culture. It’s high time someone pointed out this issue to the poor, and socially inferior race. It’s bad enough that they’re black, but do they have to ACT black too? Please, no more Grills and Bling and shirts with idiotic black messages. Those who cannot speak proper English shouldn’t be wearing anything with text. Try a white shirt. At least white is clean. The problem here is leaning away from the social issue and is now intruding into an aesthetic issue. Those of us who are white shouldn’t have to be subjected to the visual atrocities that result from the lack of education of these simple black folk.

I realize that perhaps a small percentage of these blacks wish that they weren’t black, but the majority of them are proud of their disgusting heritage. And when I say hit the heritage, I mean their excuse of a culture. I don’t necessarily call former slavery and the new black slang culture. You blacks know who you are. With UNM accepting too many students as it is, it would be beneficial for all if admissions excluded blacks.

Seeing a black person with baggy pants hanging off his rear, hat tilted to the side, fake gold swining from his neck, and loud rap music blaring from his headphones is far more disturing than seeing an obese person waddling in front of me with his or her back fat hanging out for everyone to see. I find it an interesting paradox that it’s in the nation of the glorious KKK that houses the sick culture of the modern black.

Many of the people reading this will probably not even immediately realize that they fall into the category of people I am talking about. But please. Put away the rap CD, take the grills out of your mouth and learn to speak English. And to all you white people out there, stay your lovely superior selves.”

Is it satire now?

November 4 at 2:57 PM
by A

My gawd, “L”, you are a genius!

November 4 at 4:08 PM
by to L

to L,

um, no. this still isn’t satire (maybe you should look up what satire is)

and also — most people choose to live an unhealthy lifestyle that leads to obesity. people don’t choose to be black. this comparison is hideous.

November 4 at 4:39 PM
by L

To: to L

That was kind of my point. HELLO! Everyone that says the original article was satire was obvioiusly mistaken.

I wouldn’t agree with you on the other part. There are many people that are financially subjected to living an unhealthy lifestlye. The bag of chips is cheapter than the salad mix at the store. A family of five living on a limited income is going to choose quantity over quality and are thrown into a situation where it is not necessarily their fault for an unhealthy lifestyle. And of course there are the medical faults for some people struggling with weight.

Was the article itself not hideous?

Also, I’d just like to point out that it’s not an issue of being fat, being black. The original article, although discriminating towards fat people, attempted to focus more on what fat people wore. The clothing. I am only lead to assume that the author was attempting to focus on clothing on fat people, and that fat people should “cover up” (BTW, why should fat people be forced to cover up and not skinny people? Just the other day I saw a skinny girl on campus wearing shorts that nearly showed her a$$ and a “shirt” that was just below her breasts…I don’t want to have to see that, her skinny or not).

Also, I wasn’t fully discriminiating against blacks in the example, more was I descriminating against their “clothing” and visual aspects of the culture. Murthy can discriminate against fat people’s choice in appearance, why can’t I discriminate in black people’s choice in appearance?

The thing that sold this piece “And to all the fit people out there: simply stay your sexy selves.”

Implication that fat cannot be attractive. That’s the killer.

November 4 at 5:28 PM
by Christopher Hicks

I think Victor Murthy’s article was a piece of hateful trash, but first, I will address a few of the claims from a few (hopefully) ignorant responders.

First, this article is NOT satire. For those of you citing Swift, saying that this bares any resemblance to his style of writing are simply wrong. Perhaps if the story were to focus on how we could solve the energy crisis by harvesting overweight people’s excess fat and using it for fuel, or something riding that line would be a closer comparison. As it stands now, there is no semblance of similarity between the two. This could not even fit into the general category of satire, no matter how far you stretched it. So please, stop trying to defend him with examples you do not understand.

Second, nobody is debating whether or not obesity or being overweight is a health issue. Seeing as the article itself was not addressing the issue of health (except to exclude the FEW who may have gland issues), it is of no consequences how anyone else feels about it when responding specifically to Victor Murthy. What was housed within the confines of that article was undoubtedly pure cruelty. There was no intention to persuade overweight individuals to become healthier; it was merely aimed at shaming them into a socially accepted, or rather Victor Murthy’s view of beauty. There are many factors that determine whether or not a person will have the ability to live as healthily as the next, and for that reason we cannot criticize those who are unable to do so. Even those individuals who “choose” to be overweight, what the hell gives us (ANY of us) the right to dictate how they should live their lives, as long as they aren’t being harmful or hurtful to those around them?!

Third, the Daily Lobo should NOT have published this article. Yes, I do understand that this is an opinion piece, and this is Victor Murthy’s opinion. But, when is it okay to publish hate speech just because it is an opinion. We cannot sit by and allow overweight and obese individuals to be bullied/criticized/abused simply because their lifestyle has the ability to fall under the category of “choice.” It is different from being black, as pointed out above, but the truth is that if this article was written about gays/minorities/handicapped/ or any other inherently non-normative sect of society, it would have been trashed immediately after reading (WITHOUT being published!). Apparently it is acceptable to flagrantly fling hateful, cruel, and hurtful comments at anyone, so long as they chose to live in a way that we (again, ANY of us) do not feel is normal. If you were to look at America throughout history, the reason behind all forms of persecution was the guise of “majority rule” forcing all those in minority groups to either assimilate or accept their dismal fate as either ostracized, criticized, harassed, and sometimes even killed. While this kind of speech is not along the lines of calling for a cleansing of the overweight population, it is riding the same line of bigoted hatred. I am an avid believer and promoter of free speech, but there are times (and this would definitely be one of them) where it has been taken too far!

Finally, I feel terrible for any overweight person, and even those who empathize with their situations, who had to read this atrocious article. In a country consumed by beauty, it is difficult enough to find comfort in one’s own skin. I, as I am sure all of you (with the obvious exception of the self-acclaimed picture of perfection, Victor Murthy) have struggled at one point or another with our appearance, and the best thing we can provide for anyone is a support system. It is not the place of anyone, skinny or otherwise, to ridicule others for their circumstances, because it is utterly impossible to pinpoint the exact cause for every individual. Is it so hard to simply accept physical appearances for what they are, and provide the support for everyone to be happy, healthy individuals? Unfortunately, it appears that even this is too much.

November 4 at 6:30 PM
by watergate

There is a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon that uses the fat he vacuums out of fat people to fuel his diesel car. His car run on people fat. Hicks thanks for bringing up that fat people could help with the car emissions problem in global warming and cut the health costs fat people place on the U.S. health care system.

November 4 at 6:37 PM
by watergate

Victor and the Lobo are protected by the Bill of Rights. Victor’s article has set off a debate in the market place of ideas. A very American ideal and it needs to be done more often since this country is going down the drain. This is something which the United States was founded upon not the anti democratic politically correct thought and speech. Most of the people that don’t like his article are for censorship of the press and against free speech and ideas.
I’m working poor and I eat healthy and cheap. I don’t buy junk food or soda because it’s bad for you and it can drive up your grocery bills.

November 4 at 7:28 PM
by Julie

Well written Christopher.

November 4 at 8:26 PM
by Liebe

Mr. Hicks,

Very well put. You by far had the most sensible thing to say about this entire ordeal.

November 4 at 8:29 PM
by L

To watergate: Are you feeding just yourself or a family with a total of seven members? Try living off food stamps and feeding that many mouths, three times a day, everyday. The healthiest foods are not making the grocery list simply because of price.

November 4 at 10:08 PM
by Benny Brown

Personally, I love what this piece does for the Daily Lobo. I’ve read many of these reaction posts and find that a majority have expressed their disgust with the Lobo for publishing this article…. I only have one thing to say, IT WORKED! Look how many people have read and commented about the article… Only goes to show one thing, there’s no such thing as BAD publicity…. Kudos to the Lobo and to Vic… If the Lobo was worried about selling ad space in their paper, a column like this would certainly change things, chew on that for a bit…

P.S. This is clearly a SUCCESSFUL satirical piece… C’mon people, think outside the box, take a chill pill, relax, OR do something about it and write an article of your own…

Peace….

November 4 at 10:37 PM
by Horrace

Satire: “A literary manner which blends a critical attitude with humor and written for the purpose of imporving human institutions or humanity. True satirists are conscious of the frailty of institutions of human devising and attempt through laughter not so much to tear them down as to inspire a remodeling. If critics simply abuse they are writing invective…”

I’d have to say that this is truly invective. This obviously tears down “fat” people and inspires absolutely no remodeling.

November 5 at 12:36 AM
by Vikki Morris

I think it’s time we have all had enough of this type of discrimination.

www.enoughdiscrimination.com

Enough Discrimination! Weight-based Discrimination – Anti-Fat Stigma – Fat Discrimination – Weight Bias

Articles like Victor Murthy’s gives others permission to discriminate and laws in other states have been enacted due to these types of people:

http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/cityagenda/publish/cityattorney-reports/1132.pdf

November 5 at 5:18 AM
by Smiley

Woah shnap is this the smokers vs the fat people?
(no offense “fat people” I just needed to use to the discussion term).

November 5 at 7:27 AM
by James Lewis

Dick Morris thinks Mob-O-Care is dead after the Democrat electoral fiascos in the last week. I sincerely hope that Morris is right, but I’m not so sure.

The trouble is that Obama and the Democrats have no other game plan — their other ideas, like the suicidal Carbon Tax, are even more likely to get them tossed out of office. Obama’s power has peaked — and judging by the Clinton backlash of 1994, when the GOP won the House for the first time in forty years, it’s downhill from here on out. Nothing in politics is certain, and Obama will certainly try to recover power, as Bill Clinton did in the ’90s. But Obama and his dead-enders have to reckon with the likelihood that they will never have more power than right now.

So it’s not out of the question that the Democrats in the House and Senate will go for a kamikaze rush to push MediCoup through Congress as quickly as possible. It would not be difficult. Normal Americans think we can defeat the “Blue Dog Democrats” at the polls, and that is true. But Obama just has to pick up the phone and tell the Dogs he will guarantee them jobs even if they are defeated. How about Ambassador to Upper Slobbovia? How about a nice job in the Soros Empire? Or in the case of Leon Panetta, how about a university center named after you, and funded by the Feds to study, umm…the art of politics? For the real high flyers like Rahm Emanuel, there’s always a part-time job on the Board of Freddie Mac for several million bucks.

Everything we know about these people suggests that they are single-minded fanatics with basically only one game plan, which is to consolidate as much power as possible as quickly as possible. Everything flows from that. In Europe, the socialists have insulated themselves from elections. That’s how they can do outrageous things time and time again and still stay in power.

Right now the analogy to the Japanese at the end of WWII is strikingly apt. The Japanese Empire was at dead end. Emperor-worship was still the public face of Japan; everybody had to pretend they agreed, even if they privately thought it mad. Japanese defeat was therefore unthinkable, and rather than let the Emperor be defeated, thousands of young men were trained and indoctrinated into the logic of banzai charges and suicide dive-bombing on U.S. Navy ships. Those kamikazes were last-ditch warriors, but they took a bloody toll.

The Blue Dogs don’t even have to suicide electorally. All they have to do is vote for Mob-O-Care as soon as possible, knowing they will be defeated, but also knowing that the Machine always takes care of its own. Just ask Hizzoner da Mare. Or look at Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s nice retirement home.

That’s what’s got me worried right now.

Mob-O-Care is still the big banana. The Democrats can still carry it over the top and then take their losses in elections to come with the faith that no Republican Congress will dare to infuriate all the Victim Groups of the Left by repealing free medical care for forty percent of the population. Or whatever they settle on. Remember that the actual dollar figures have never been believable, and Medicare and Social Security are operating as accounting fictions even now. So this has all been media drivel from top to bottom. All they have to do is pass a shell of a bill, set up the bureaucracies, and expand them in future Democrat-dominated Congresses.

The socialist parties in Europe have done it by taking over the medical sectors of their economies. Once they control medical care for all, every political argument comes down to who makes bigger promises to buy more for the voters. The actual pie might shrink because of rationing, but that doesn’t matter. Most people don’t think long-term, but socialists do. In Britain, a Labourite just confessed what many of us have suspected for years: that the socialists deliberately imported hundreds of thousands of Third World people, including unnumbered Islamist radicals from the Northwest Territories of Pakistan with nothing but a tribal warrior culture. Using their control of the BBC and the media, the socialists accused every British critic of this practice of racism. That’s how they nailed the Conservative Party.

That is also why Britain today is covered with CCTV cameras wherever people live, and why the schools are sending in mandatory reports on racist remarks by children from the earliest years onward. It’s madness, and the only so-called solution, is for Britain to become the Western Province of the new European Union of Socialist Republics. That has been the goal all along for the Leftist radicals, and nobody knows how to stop them now.

Obama is the same. He is a third-world socialist, which is no different from all the other kinds. His real identification is not with this country, but with “transnationalism” — the corrupt and conscienceless elite of the U.N., the EU, and a Vast Left-Wing Corruptocracy around the world. Saul Alinsky was a big fan of the Chicago Mob, and the de facto alliance we see at the United Nations combines an awful lot of Islamists with Leftists with corruptocrats. Witness the Oil for Food Scam, run right out of the Secretary-General’s office at the U.N. during the Saddam years. Witness the criminal cases in France today against Dominique de Villepin and Jacques Chirac.

Don’t believe the Democrats don’t see that as a model. If it worked in Chicago, in Europe, and at the U.N., they figure it will work in Washington, D.C

November 5 at 7:38 AM
by Steve McCann

One of the great mysteries in today’s United States is how a country founded on the principle of individual freedom, having achieved great wealth and world influence, could have developed a political class bent on transforming the nation into a collective dominated by a powerful central government.

The history of man is replete with the rise and fall of major civilizations. The downfall of these societies inevitably stemmed from a prolonged period without adversity, which in turn generated internal strife and political and monetary greed. In due course, these empires were easily conquered or dominated by others.

John Adams wrote in a letter to his wife of his need to study politics and war so his sons could study mathematics and philosophy and his grandchildren could study poetry and music. Surely this grand new experiment known as the United States, based on the rights of the individual and not the state, could avoid the pitfalls that plagued other nations.

The peace, prosperity, and lack of national adversity Adams envisioned came to pass, and future generations were able to study subjects other than war. Unfortunately, destructive modern political philosophies, such as Marxism and socialism, manipulated by the self-absorbed to achieve political power, were matters John Adams and his fellow founding fathers could not have anticipated.

The inherent basis of Marxism and socialism is no different from that of earlier monarchies — the domination of a state by a select class or individual. Today’s believers in these “-isms” are no different from those in the past who believed they were preordained to rule the masses. Modern society will not accept the concept of an authoritarian dictator or monarch; thus, a powerful central government, with its trappings of public legitimacy, serves as a substitute.

In order for this strategy to succeed, the public must be manipulated into accepting the premise that only government and not they can provide economic and personal security. This can best be done in a country such as the United States not in an era of adversity, but one of prosperity and good fortune.

The last period of what could be called true national adversity was the 1930s and the Great Depression. Franklin Roosevelt and his fellow travelers were unable to fully realize an all-powerful central government despite their best efforts. While he certainly made inroads, the people and circumstances were such that FDR could not achieve his ultimate goal.

However, in the nearly seventy years since, during which the United States became the most powerful economic and military force the world has ever seen, there has been an inexorable march to government domination of the citizenry at all levels. Parallel to this track has been the rise of the socialist Left, the most influential group of all political entities.

The lack of national adversity over these years allowed the adherents of Marxism and socialist philosophies to recruit among the college-aged and the middle class by citing the so-called inequities of American society and the need to remake the country. They fanned the egos of these gullible individuals by convincing them of their individual superiority and ability, not to mention the necessity that they govern and educate the huddled masses.

One need only watch many in the committed American Left make pilgrimages to those second- and third-world countries controlled by Marxist governments and fawn over their rulers. The diminished standard of living, the loss of liberty, and the bleak future for the people of these nations are ignored while the power achieved by the head of state is celebrated.

It is that acquisition of power which motivates the self-named “Progressives,” not the welfare of the general public, as they so loudly proclaim.

A strategy was needed on how a faction that represented less than 20% of the citizenry could elicit this endgame with a people overwhelmingly against the concept of powerful central government and within the framework of a written constitution.

Using the backdrop of overwhelming prosperity, the Left seized upon the concept of “fairness” to promote their agenda and intimidate the populace. This “fairness” strategy was further reinforced by the incessant promotion that the United States as a civilization was responsible for all manner of evils throughout its history.

On the surface, it appeared that there was nothing this country did not have the money for, nothing it could not accomplish. To make up for past sins by guaranteeing equal outcomes was the least that could be done. The argument became that with so much wealth, the United States could afford to (fill in the blank).

As a result, much of the citizenry quietly accepted the argument and simply dropped out of active participation in government. They assumed the nation was in reasonably good hands with the two political parties, whose motives or agenda were never questioned. Most did not realize that by the mid 1980’s, the Left had a stranglehold on the Democratic Party, and the Republicans, unable or unwilling to fully warn the population of the future consequences of an all-powerful central government, were only able to slow down the march to socialism — and that only when they were in power.

This march was not at gunpoint, but rather by the destruction of the economy and self-determination through massive spending programs which were unsustainable but became woven into the fabric of society.

In the 2008 election, the Left, with its ideal stealth candidate for President, actualized the culmination of their grand strategy. We now have the most radical government in our history. These people are unabashedly brazen in their triumph. While still assuming that the general public is asleep, they do not hesitate to openly advocate policies not wanted by the electorate, such as Cap and Trade and Health Care Reform. They do so not as a benefit for the country or its people, but to enhance and make permanent government power, regardless of the long-term consequences to the nation.

It is, however, this same megalomania, and the long-awaited awakening of the American people, that will be the downfall of this political class. The seizure of power for the sake of power is doomed to failure.

It is often claimed that the Left in the United States is simply trying to copy European socialism. However, the grand experiment of Euro-socialism, while now proven unsuccessful, stemmed from the unimaginable devastation of World War II. Victor and vanquished alike suffered a near-total loss of economic and social infrastructure which took nearly twenty years to overcome.

The motivation of the European political class was to promote the general welfare of the population, not self-aggrandizement. The failure of their brand of socialism was due to a determination to never repeat the circumstances which brought about two World Wars in the twentieth century. However, the political class and the populace did not fully appreciate the long-term economic consequences of the many social programs enacted. Many European societies, having realized their error, are moving back from the abyss and adopting more free-market principles.

Here in the United States, there has never been a similar devastating factor to justify a turn to a socialist state and a powerful central government. What is happening now is driven purely by arrogance and manipulation. It has the potential to end in national economic and social disaster, similar to so many empires of the past.

The American people are starting to understand the true motivations of those now in power. As shown in the 2009 elections in Virginia and New Jersey, the people can, by their participation in the electoral process, halt or stall the progress made by the Progressives to realize their socialist dream.

The country can return to the path of economic and social prosperity and relegate the Left to the background of the nation’s politics, where they belong, once and for all. The key is time, and time is something we have little of. The 2010 elections will be the most important midterm election in our history.

While John Adams and his fellow founders could not have anticipated what has happened to the country they established, they did give it a framework — a constitution — which can enable us to avoid the same egocentrism that led to the downfall of other major civilizations.

November 5 at 11:08 AM
by why?

There is no reason to invoke the spirit of John Adams. Thank you, come again!

November 5 at 11:57 AM
by Victoria Smiel

This is also a response to Victor Murthy and everyone else out there who concludes that people are fat because they overeat and commit the sin gluttony. I’m sick and tired of this assumption. Most people are fat because they have health issues and their metabolism is out of whack due to a problem with their adrenal glands or thyroid. They are not so fat because they pig out and over indulge. With a messed up metabolism comes diminished energy making it even harder to get up and work out. Haven’t you ever known a person who was so skinny but could eat so much and not gain an ounce? They have great metabolisms and not everyone has the same one. So no, for everyone it is not calories in – calories expended = their weight gain. This formula does not apply to everyone. Please stop looking at an overweight person and think they are that way because they are weak and overeat.

November 5 at 12:05 PM
by Michael Conway

Dear Editor-in-Chief Rachel Hill,

You published a despicable article written by guest columnist Victor Murthy, including,

“Seeing an obese person waddling in front of me with his or her back fat hanging out for everyone to see is far more disturbing than a smoker blowing smoke in my face (fat smokers are the worst). I find it an interesting paradox that it’s in one of the most image-obsessed nations that people often think they look good, even when they so clearly do not.”

Initially, I thought to write Murthy but figured him just another free-speeching punk with a pen. Instead, you and the Daily Lobo are called out to the Formerquarterton Yard. Please respond to email formerquartertonman@hotmail.com, and tell my readers why you published such trash.

My best,

Michael Conway
www.formerquartertonman.com

November 5 at 3:57 PM
by DeeDee

well you sure opened a BIG can of worms, didn’t you? I am obese, and morbidly so. It comes down to this, young man.

Its my body, I support myself and I paid good money to get an education here at UNM. You don’t like to see me walking in front of you, CLOSE YOUR EYES, my dear. Simple as that.

enough said.

November 5 at 5:35 PM
by BM

yet more corkers going relatively unnoticed.

‘Most people are fat because they have health issues and their metabolism is out of whack due to a problem with their adrenal glands or thyroid. They are not so fat because they pig out and over indulge.’

hmmm…

November 5 at 10:55 PM
by Pattie Baena

I really agree. I’ve never been at UNM but when it’s a way of life so miserable to be fat, to have bad clothes and to smoke and eat at Mc Donald’s… it’s just a matter of class and sofistication, respect to the others even if they think you’re gorgeous it’s not bad to do an effort sometimes to the nation..or ourselves!
Pattie.

November 6 at 9:33 AM
by MeMa

Dearest Vic,

Thank you very much for the gut wrenching laugh this article gave me! It’s about time someone approached this topic in a more forward and blunt way. By the way, I love your “egotistiacal wannabe European” self!

November 6 at 12:06 PM
by Rick Raab-Faber

As there are several responses showing here that are obviously not referring to Murthy’s piece, I can’t tell what exactly Robin of Berkeley was responding to.

Nonetheless she (he?) brings up an excellent point: “[S]ociopathy will not wane unless we create a nation of grown-ups. A country where people are expected to take responsibility for their actions. No exceptions.”

It’s true. Everyone does have their opinions. Many should just not be expressed. Being mean and hurtful is childish. Just because you’re in a University (where a free exchange of ideas should exist) doesn’t mean it’s OK to be an ass.

The Lobo is never going to be taken seriously until it chooses to grow up.

November 6 at 9:18 PM
by Simona Rosev

Victor pointed out that obesity is a problem in America and it is. As I am from Europe myself, image is impotant and people should watch what they eat. Victor simply stated what he was thinking and this is the European mentality. People just need to excercise more and eat healthier meals. Maybe some parts of the article are considered “hateful” but it’s honest. And for those of you who call Victor a shallow and hateful person, don’t know him, because he is none of those things. At least he had the guts to write what many people are thinking because the American mentality is to be a fake person which is a horrible practice…don’t you think???

November 6 at 11:25 PM
by Don't be dumb

If he wanted to comment on how our culture is one of overeating and overconsumption, he could have. Instead, he discredited himself by attempting to solve the problem by trying to make overweight people feel badly about themselves. Being a complete *sshole about the matter isn’t going to help anyone solve their problems. Our concern about overweight people shouldn’t be related to image; we have, as Victor said, an image-obsessed culture, and image over content is a bad thing, every kindergartner knows that. Instead we should focus on the causes of obesity, including poverty (although this is obviously not the key, seeing as there are much poorer countries without obesity epidemics). While this topic needed to be broached, not in this way. This is a step in the wrong direction.

November 8 at 5:16 PM
by Just a Girl

Hmm. I wonder, how many people here who were offended by the piece are overweight, even if just slightly? How many of you here have biases yourself? Not to sound condescending, but we all judge others, so those without sin are those that may throw the first stone. Have you not all said “Could that nose be any bigger?” How about not sitting next to that person in biology because they had a lot of acne. Come on people! Just because one person published their thoughts outside a blog is no real reason to be coming down on them in such a fashion. Grow a sense of humor and get over yourselves. I think that all of these complaints against Vic are purely envy at the fact that he is comfortable speaking his inner thoughts when you are just too chicken to do it yourself.

And to the comments about the French and the idea that cigarettes and starvation make you skinny, @*&% that! The French, while they do smoke heavily, eat more carbs, cream and butter than over half of America, so STFU, get off your moral high horses and LAUGH FOR ONCE.

In a time of such global hate and animosity, do we really need to be hating someone for a joke?

November 9 at 2:36 AM
by Christopher

Wow. . I see there are a few of VIctor’s friends writing responses to this as well. First of all, I do know Victor and he is as egotistical as his article makes him out to be. But aside from that, your approach to this article is a nice thought, but absurd.

I am not overweight (and NO, I am not claiming I am better than anyone overweight simply because I am thinner than they are), so I am not biased in my opinion. I am however, a human being with a little bit of tact for my fellow man/woman.

To ‘Simona’ and ‘Just A Girl’, I enjoy your arguments, but they are a tad silly. Just because you are BIASED due to your personal opinions of Victor, doesn’t make his opinion any less hateful than it was. While you may continuously cite this article as a joke or something unworthy of controversy, it simply is NOT! Stating your opinion is all well and good in a conversation with a friend or a blog, but it deserves a little restriction when being published by a university publication. I, as well as all of you, have many thoughts going through our minds that we purposely do NOT publicize. This is due to the fact that our judgments are often prejudicial in nature and CRUEL!

Hmmm. . Maybe we should all think about what types of opinions need to be expressed and what should remain an internal process. NO, this is not a hindrance of free speech, as even the first amendment has restrictions. When being distributed within a campus, certain discretion MUST be used. Try considering the implications before defending this “joke”.

November 9 at 8:59 AM
by Christin

In reply to ‘Christopher,‘I would like to cite a very important document…

Well, really, this is for everyone out there.

First Amendment in the constitution.
Freedom of religion, press, and expression.

November 9 at 2:34 PM
by HLS

Mr Murthy, your rolls of character flaws are showing and I do not care to see them huffing and puffing in the Daily Lobo. Get in shape with some humanity and try purchasing some hemorrhoid cream at your local Wal-Mart for your inflated self image, I’m sure the swelling is killing you.

November 9 at 9:09 PM
by Amy Hodgkins

Ha. Love it Victor. Someone had to say it…

and I love the people who are claiming you a wannabe European as if its a bad thing!! ;)

November 9 at 10:14 PM
by M. Gallagher

This article just proves what I originally thought the first time I picked up the Daily Lobo. It is not worth the paper it is printed on: bad writing, uninteresting stories, and substandard journalism seem to abound.
This article is in poor taste and shows a severe lack of good judgement on the part of the editor. The author is neither funny nor clever. Typically, I would be outraged by his topic choice, but he is so obviously shallow, I can only barely muster irritation. To feel more than that would be to devote energy to a worthless endeavor. I will simply do what I have for the past three semesters: boycott the Daily Lobo on the grounds that it is an unprofessional publication and not worthy of my time.

November 10 at 12:04 AM
by To M. Gallagher, and people like him

I would like to see you create a better publication while balancing classes, homework, a social and family life, all well getting paid next to nothing. When you can do that by all means insult the Lobo as much as would like, but till then keep your goddamn mouth shout.

November 10 at 4:10 PM
by Kate

While I find this piece rude and disrespectful to those who cannot help the extra pounds they have somehow received, I do believe that those of you putting negative comments and remarks must, yourselves, be overweight. Take time to see where he is coming from. Though his attempt at good humor failed, at least he tried. That is more than most can say. If you get negative feedback, you know you’re doing something right. Way to go, continue the hard work.

November 10 at 8:55 PM
by Andres Saenz(UNM Alumnus)

I LOL’ed when I read this: “Thank God the winter weather is here: People will be forced to put on more clothes”. Not if you’re Don Schrader, ha ha ha!!! XD

Anyways, I understand the point that Mr. Murphy is trying to get across: We as a nation should be ASHAMED and EMBARRASSED of ourselves because America contains the greatest number and concentration of obese people anywhere on the planet…BY FAR. When I went to Italy this past May, I did not see any overweight people over there…the vast majority of Italian people are very slim and healthy in spite of the fact that pizza and pasta dishes originated in their country. And I’m pretty sure that most other European people are very slim and healthy as well…just look at the British, the Dutch, the French, or the Spaniards. Even in my native Mexico did I hardly see any overweight people.

Obesity is an extremely serious health epidemic here in America that should be addressed by our federal government officials in Washington. I blame the American food industry…most restaurants encourage a lazy, sedentary lifestyle by having “drive-thrus”. Are we THAT lazy that we can’t even get out of the car and walk a few yards to pick up our food?! Every time I read a nutrition label on a food product at the grocery store it contains more than 12 different chemicals that our bodies don’t need!! Unless something is labeled “organic” we are eating crap, folks! And not to mention that many restaurants here on the main UNM campus serve food that is drenched in saturated fat…Sonic and Saggio’s are definitely the 2 biggest culprits. You could fill a 12-oz cup with all the greasy drippings that you could squeeze out of 1 slice of their pizza.

I’ve seen a TV show on TLC that outlined the heartbreaking stories of several individuals who each weighed more than 500 pounds. I was absolutely SHOCKED to see a 29-year-old woman that weighed more than 800 pounds, she was BEGGING for help to get a bypass surgery to lose all that weight. She could not fit through the door frames of her house, so a group of firemen had to come and hoist her out of her house to take her to an obesity clinic. Even though she lost 50 pounds, she died eventually from all that excess body fat. And sadly, thousands of people have also died from obesity just like this woman.

November 10 at 9:04 PM
by Steelers_Rule

How did Victor Murthy make it to being a senior in Management anyways? What was he trying to accomplish by his article? Is he just acting like a “shock jock”
What Victor posits is laughable and has no merit. I think I will spare the “Karma” question like he will be forty one day, have a beer belly and be bald as an eagle. He is trying to ruffle a few feathers. I am let this joker slide-I have lost 80 pounds and have 60 to go. Taking my time and changing my lifestyle is my secret.
Here is how to do it:
!. Cut out all processed sugars, candies and such. Your sugar milligram intake cannot exceed 50 grammes per day.
2. Do not eat anything:
A. Your grandmother does not recognise
B. Processed, high sodium, or anything else you may need a chemist to decipher.
Additionally, you must eat organic and hormone free food-stuff you buy in the markets contain hormones and endocrine disruptors, which screws up a person’s metabolism and causes massive weight gain.
Have a look at Whole foods, Lo Montanita Co-Op and hit up your local farmer’s market!But be sure and ask if they use pesticides or how they keep away pests.

This means drive PAST the fast food restaurants and cook food from home
It will save you a bundle and you will keep your weight down..
Ever wonder why Europeans are so bloody thin???

November 11 at 7:10 PM
by To The Overwhelmed Daily Lobo Defender from M. Gallagher

I am so sorry to hear that you are having difficulty balancing your life. You may want to consider seeking professional help in your time of crisis and to help you work out your anger management issues. It is unfortunate that you have chosen to personally associate yourself with The Daily Lobo and feel the need to vindicate it. May I suggest that since you are so overwhelmed that you devote your energy to a more worthy cause? Perhaps your schedule needs to be re-arranged, or you need help finding a better job. I’m sorry to hear that your social life is suffering. That really is a shame. Maybe you could put your kids up for adoption? Let me know if I can be of any service to you.
Best regards,
M.Gallagher

November 11 at 7:14 PM
by To The Overwhelmed Daily Lobo Defender from M. Gallagher

PS: I think you meant “shut” not “shout.”

November 15 at 6:42 PM
by Debra

Victor,

1. Not all that pant on stairs are “out of shape”. Some have asthma.

2. Just wait 10 years. You will sag and balloon, becoming one of those people you despise.

3. With all of the hatred in your soul, I suspect you will die of heart disease long before those you disparage.

November 16 at 1:27 PM
by Christine J.

For all of you who are wishing ill upon Mr. Murthy, how much better are you really. You are attacking him personally. “…I suspect you will die of heart disease long before those you disparage,” “…he will be forty one day, have a beer belly and be bald as an eagle,” “Get in shape with some humanity and try purchasing some hemorrhoid cream at your local Wal-Mart for your inflated self image, I’m sure the swelling is killing you,” need I go on?

People, this is disgusting. This was one piece of offensive literature. Please, read more. There are plenty of people out there that have views that are controversial. This man is not the first, nor will he be the last. Put your silly jumped conclusions aside and go on with your life.

November 17 at 8:46 AM
by James Certain

Ok, where to start. I admittedly don’t like to see the obese and over Wight students at school trying to where size two; however, to say that, I must admit it is because I have no sexual attraction to them. Let’s not kid ourselves, the guy who wrote this doesn’t want to see “Fat People” because when he looks at other people, he wants to be attracted to them. I know this is not the politically correct to say.
Now as for the fat person on the treadmill, we may not like having to wait for one, but let them have it. If this guy is going to tell us that all fat people make him ill or annoy him how can he tell us to kick the fat people of the treadmill. We have all seen the one person at the gym that should probably spend every free minute in the gym. We should think about this, it can’t be easy for them to walk in to the gym let alone make any effort to work out, or at least their version of working out. If a person is overweight or fat they probably haven’t been in the gym much, but at least they’re there. Look at most of the people in the gym they have hard body’s, they look good, and generally have a better outlook on life; if you are none of those things, the gym is not your normal environment. Getting overweight or fat people in the gym is the hardest part of the battle, getting them to workout effectively should be the easy part.
If this guy wants to say that fat people are hard to look at, then fix it. If this guy really wanted to change the human landscape of the campus, maybe he should start a fitness club designed to help overweight or fat people lose weight. There are many people who fight with their weight; instead of “bitching” about it, do something constructive.

November 17 at 11:00 AM
by Lobo Girl

I think everyone needs to move on and the DailyLobo be a little more cautious about what is printed and by who. Bashing people regardless of their weight is a high school thing to do and obviously many of you are still in high schoool. Grow up!

November 18 at 4:52 AM
by DL reader

So, I just read this article and I’m sorry to say, I personally know the author. He really does feel this way. It’s very much part of his personality and he’s really proud of it. I, actually, can not stand the guy. If you think this was a dumb move on his part, you wouldn’t imagine the stupid things this jerk has done. I’m sorry, Victor, but you’ve gone to far with this one.

November 18 at 11:38 AM
by zebbicat4

I don’t understand the nay say-ers. Why wouldn’t anyone want to be their physical best??? It sounds like all the haters are just mad because they are uptight (If not overweight and below par themselves). I think everyone has self esteem that’s “too high” and they need to get off their damn pedestals, for which they don’t even merit.

That “beauty comes from within” BS line has always been BS, and now because stupid Americans (most of whom are sub par mentally and physically) believe that It’s now socially acceptable to be a fat ugly INCONSIDERATE SLOB.

I could not agree more with this article.
I don’t see a difference between chastising smokers for “rudely” smoking, but to point out the obvious in “fat” people, it’s all of a sudden “not allowed”.

WTH>???? All the negativity in the comments just proves who lazy and self diluted Americans have actually become.

BTW- Foreigners VERY OFTEN imitate and HATE Americans for being fat/lazy/etc. for a reason—- because they have proof to back it up. Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.

November 18 at 11:40 PM
by Sick and Tired

Would you like to know what I am sick to death of here? I am sick of seeing misspelled words, badly constructed sentences, incoherent railings, poorly defended arguments, ignorance of social and cultural issues, and an unadulterated lack of self-awareness. I cannot believe some of you folks actually expect to earn a degree. As my high school creative writing teacher used to say, “Elevate your diction.”

November 18 at 11:52 PM
by Fat is not a crime

In all of these responses I have not seen one that does not assume that being “fat” is okay. Being large is not a sin (as if such thing exists!), it is not a crime, it does not mean someone is stupid or ugly. There should be no shame in inhabiting the body in which one inhabits, be it thin, fat, short, tall or whatever. People of size do not owe anyone an apology for being in public, for living their lives, or for being who they are. People of size should not starve themselves in order to fit your ideal of what is beautiful. Not everyone is athletic nor does everyone wish to spend their time working out all day. Hey. Here’s a novel idea… why don’t we just allow others to be who they are. Perhaps if we all spent more time working on our own inner lives and addressing those areas where we lack confidence we would not have as much time to be so critical of others… or even of ourselves.

November 19 at 2:20 PM
by Cosmos

The only problem some fat people have is low self esteem which makes them prone to lashing out – example: Locksley.

November 19 at 2:31 PM
by Cosmos

It is now time to drop this subject; however, I must relate a quick story about my brother in law. First time we met, he told my sister that he thought I was intelligent and very pretty considering I was in my mid 30’s and he was so disappointed that I had such a big butt. I have to admit the dress I was wearing, Size 10, may have been a bit tight! There are some people who will judge another person simply by the size of their rear end. How shallow is that?


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